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Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby matias on Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:58 pm

Help! I need help upgrading my outdoor antenna. I live in Olympia, WA (98516) and get broadcasts from Tacoma (32 miles away) and Seattle (44 mi) stations. I have 3 tvs (panasonic) with digital converter boxes on each one. It is moderately forested around my house. Currently I only receive channels 9, 11, 13, and 20 from the Tacoma area on my old outdoor directional antenna, even after repositioning and rescanning. I would like to get channels 4,5,7 from Seattle and anything else (I'm confused because these are listed as UHF channels on my antennaweb.org search result). I was thinking of ordering the Winegard 7084P or 8200U; am a little scared of the large size of the 8200. I think I need the full range of channels from low VHF to UHF, but am not sure. Should I be looking at other models? Does the "Channel" or "RF Channel" determine if it's UHF/VHF? Thanks!
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby tigerbangs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:21 am

Olympia is one of those cities where specific coordinates are very important when suggesting antenna solutions: the mountainous terrain makes it very tough to predict reception based on only a zip code. If you can get back to me with your specific coordinates, I can be in a much better position to help you.
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby matias on Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:48 am

Oops- sorry, I should have included those before. My coordinates are lat- 47.0873, long- 122.82771.
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby tigerbangs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:16 pm

Based on what I saw on your TVFool.com report, your observations about the 4 stations that you are now getting seems accurate: they are the 4 strongest signals in your location, but that means that you aren't seeing the bulk of the stations Seattle, which includes most of your major networks. If we are going to succeed in seing the other Sea-Tac stations, we are going to need a deep-fringe UHF antenna aimed at the cluster of transmitters in Seattle, 45-50 miles from your house.

The stations that you are calling "Low-channels" , channels 4 and 5 have since moved off to UHF, so you really don't need an antenna like a Winegard HD8200U, since the most of the size of that antenna is meant to see the old low-band channels 2-6. I am going to recommed a two-antenna system to you that will out-perform any existant combination antenna, but is a more managable size and cost.

I usggest using a Winegard YA-1713 VHF high-band yagi and an AntennasDirect XG-91 UHF antenna mounted on your roof. Mount the Winegard and the AntennasDirect on the same mast, with the Winegard 4' LOWER than the AntennasDirect XG91 on the mast. The XG-91, which is fairly light, shoud be mounted at the estreme top of the mast. Aim the XG-91 at about 15 degrees by your compass, and aim the Winegard in roughly the same direction.

Connect the two antennas using RG-6u coaxial cable, and bring the leads to one point on the mast where you will use a pico-Mcom UVSJ antenna joiner: connect the VHF antenna to the correct input, and the UHF antenna in the same manner. Run the output of the joiner into a Winegard HDP-269 preamplifier, then run the output of the preamp's coax cable into the house. Locate a place in the house that is central to all three TV sets that also has AC power available: an attic, basement or utility closet is ideal, then connect the preamplifier's power supply to the incoming coaxial cable, and connect the output of the preamp power supply into high-quality 1 ghz or better 3 or 4 way splitter, then run the output of the splitter to each of the TV sets. Please follow the instructions in the installation manual that i will link to you below, especially regarding grounding and safety instructions.

Once the antenna is connected up , and the power supply is plugged in to the AC, go to eacn TV tuner and have the tuner scan for digital stations. In some cases, weak TV sations may be bypassed by the scan, but can later be entered manually into the remote-control's keypad. Once done, you should have all of your Sea-Tac stations restored to you.

http://www.winegard.com
http://www.antennasdirect.com
http://www.picomacom.com
http://www.channelmasterintl.com/docume ... lation.pdf
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby matias on Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:55 pm

Sounds like a good plan. Thanks for giving your time and expertise to us all in this time of need. I will get to work and let you know how things turn out.
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby tigerbangs on Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:22 pm

Great: let us know how you make out...
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby matias on Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:16 am

Well I ordered the Antennas Direct XG91 12 twelve days ago and it finally arrived yesterday, and after assembling it and hooking it up I am able to pull in channels 4,5,7,16,22, and 28 with great reception, in addition to the VHF channels I was already getting. I was able to use an old distribution amplifier to boost the signal to my three tvs, so it looks like I won't even need to use the preamp. The XG91 was a bit of a challenge to snap together but is otherwise fairly sturdy, and I had to beef up my mast to support the extra weight and height. I'm just very happy I didn't have to order satellite tv after all.

Thanks again for the great site and advice!
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Re: Upgrading antenna - PNW

Postby tigerbangs on Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:06 am

I'm glad that it worked well for you: Thanks for the update!
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